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if he wanted to test egypt, egypt of the may 25th revolution showed itself as a -- the true egypt that we have known as a nationalistic, that we have grown up with it. israel, in all its -- all of its goals, have failed, thanks to god. our brothers in egypt were asked, the whole world asked our brothers in egypt to sponsor account, to the cease-fire, a calm to the situation. thes asked them, everybody went to egypt, you can pressure hamas, pressure the resistance, please, do so, but i tell you, egypt with no honesty. egypt took its responsibility, thankfully, with a complete spirit as a respected state, that the whole world asked them to do its responsible professionally and objectively and at the same time did not forget its arab nation, that is the arab nation and muslim nation that palestine lives through the conscience of egypt. egypt did not sell out the resistance, did not pressure that resistance as some people are saying. egypt behaved responsibly. egypt wanted to end the aggression, but not with any price. on the contrary, egypt understood our requests. through the negotiation
if he wanted to test egypt, egypt of the may 25th revolution showed itself as a -- the true egypt that we have known as a nationalistic, that we have grown up with it. israel, in all its -- all of its goals, have failed, thanks to god. our brothers in egypt were asked, the whole world asked our brothers in egypt to sponsor account, to the cease-fire, a calm to the situation. thes asked them, everybody went to egypt, you can pressure hamas, pressure the resistance, please, do so, but i tell you,...
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egypt? >>guest: from egypt. that is the positive aspect, the united states saying to egypt you are responsbile. can we talk iran? that is a question we will have to see. time will tell. egypt now has the ability to come to the global stage and we are making them true to them selves. >>trace: everyone is asking, one hour into the cease-fire, how long will it last? >> more ahead on the crisis in the middle east. well look at the united states role in the negotiations. after five months on medical leave, this is now breaking, a federal investigation underway congressman jesse jackson is stepping down. the reaction in washington, dc, is next. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today.
egypt? >>guest: from egypt. that is the positive aspect, the united states saying to egypt you are responsbile. can we talk iran? that is a question we will have to see. time will tell. egypt now has the ability to come to the global stage and we are making them true to them selves. >>trace: everyone is asking, one hour into the cease-fire, how long will it last? >> more ahead on the crisis in the middle east. well look at the united states role in the negotiations. after five...
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particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this is suzanne. do you know what hamas has gotten out of this? what sense do they feel they are walking away from the table, what have they achieved here? >> well, spoik to him just before this was announced. however, what they want to achieve is a lifting of the siege. i don't think i heard anything about that this evening. that is going to be something that we'll see whether that comes along. you heard in some of hillary clinton's original statements when she was in jerusalem last night she talked about needing a secure israel and supporting
particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this...
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and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very dech different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and obviously, since that meeting finished, the rockets, as he we said, the worst our reporters have seen. nick, where are we going from here? everyone is talking about a cease-fire. but yet when hillary clinton spoke about it, the united states spoke about it today, they didn't use that word. they used this word i did not understand called de-escalating. here is the secretary of state. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid. and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> nick, what does deescalate mean? is that diplomatic doubl
and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very dech different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and...
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they didn't say egypt. they obviously have to use egypt because egypt is in control. that is remain -- it remains up in the air how much egypt will do. that will determine if there is a renewal of the war. what is important is a complicated game for netanyahu. he was under pressure from the israelis in the south and from the seasonals who were mobilized, had to leave their jobs. he decided he wouldn't, a political hit. he did it to tell obama i will tellp you out and go easy and pull back. he understands that the big game is iran. he doesn't want to blow his relationship with obama over this. >> shannon: they also said part of this is israel will stop the targeted assassinations. we haven't heard israel say they would agree with that. having taken out hamas' leader not that long ago. >> that is the goal. it's potent for israel should it strike around is a looming question. over this military operation. they are not going to agree -- under any term of the deal to ever say oh,, it's not going to take out the most powerful people. of course they are. they are trying to t
they didn't say egypt. they obviously have to use egypt because egypt is in control. that is remain -- it remains up in the air how much egypt will do. that will determine if there is a renewal of the war. what is important is a complicated game for netanyahu. he was under pressure from the israelis in the south and from the seasonals who were mobilized, had to leave their jobs. he decided he wouldn't, a political hit. he did it to tell obama i will tellp you out and go easy and pull back. he...
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we have a new government in egypt. >> is egypt sending back its ambassador to tel aviv? >> i'm not aware yet. i hope they would. >> is that part of the agreement? >> i'm not aware. but i can say the following, we've got a new government in egypt. and we've got an old peace treaty. we want them to go together well. we're committed to maintaining peace with egypt. it serves both sides of cairo and jerusalem. and we want to see that peace treaty strengthened. >> what assurances did you, the prime minister of israel -- you're not the prime minister, but prime minister netanyahu, get from president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton as far as u.s. support for israel as part of this framework agreement? >> we heard and received very strong support from the united states during this whole crisis. the americans were unequivocal. they said the rockets from gaza have to stop. there's no excuse for them. no justification whatsoever. they said in trying to defend our people israel was acting in legitimate self-defense. we heard that very clearly from the american side. but
we have a new government in egypt. >> is egypt sending back its ambassador to tel aviv? >> i'm not aware yet. i hope they would. >> is that part of the agreement? >> i'm not aware. but i can say the following, we've got a new government in egypt. and we've got an old peace treaty. we want them to go together well. we're committed to maintaining peace with egypt. it serves both sides of cairo and jerusalem. and we want to see that peace treaty strengthened. >> what...
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and now that hamas has broken with damascus and is gravitating toward egypt egypt is the really big player here. it has several interests. it doesn't want to become responsible for gaza. it doesn't want the israelis to bomb cairo when a bomb comes from gaza but it would like to mediate an end to this crisis. >> jennifer: hussein said that he -- if i heard him correctly that iran and hamas, their ties were not as strong as many believe in terms of the weapons that are being supplied to hamas. is that your understanding as well? >> well, there had been a relationship between iran and hamas but what hussein was correctly saying was that hamas was in a position of supporting the iranians and the government in syria or of supporting the revolutionaries in syria who -- one large component of which is the muslim brotherhood. so most in hamas have now chosen the muslim brotherhood which means that they have broken with iran and with syria and they've instead oriented themselves toward egypt. so this is a big deal. there were a few iranian munitions that had been smuggled into gaza but most of the
and now that hamas has broken with damascus and is gravitating toward egypt egypt is the really big player here. it has several interests. it doesn't want to become responsible for gaza. it doesn't want the israelis to bomb cairo when a bomb comes from gaza but it would like to mediate an end to this crisis. >> jennifer: hussein said that he -- if i heard him correctly that iran and hamas, their ties were not as strong as many believe in terms of the weapons that are being supplied to...
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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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how did egypt, to have an internet and a mobile service worth shutting down? the short answer lies in the most important policy accomplishments of the clinton administration that most people, present company excluded, have never heard of. world trade organization agreement on basic telecommunications. back in the 1990s, monopolies operated communication networks in most countries around the world, generally government owned or controlled monopolies. that was the world most of us grew up in. it was before the internet and mobile communications took off, and it's not a coincidence at the end of that world coincided with a take off of mobile and the internet. in any event back then in the '90s, leaders at the white house, at the state department, the u.s. trade rep, commerce department, and yes the fcc, developed what many thought at the time was a crazy and certainly hopeless idea. what if, they asked, what if we pushed to privatize communications, companies and markets around the world, what if we moved the world toward open market access, robust competition? a
how did egypt, to have an internet and a mobile service worth shutting down? the short answer lies in the most important policy accomplishments of the clinton administration that most people, present company excluded, have never heard of. world trade organization agreement on basic telecommunications. back in the 1990s, monopolies operated communication networks in most countries around the world, generally government owned or controlled monopolies. that was the world most of us grew up in. it...
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what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come to these, you know, next phase of negotiations with far more sympathy for the people of gaza than perhaps if that was a conversation that happened two years ago or three years ago with the government of hosni mubarak. i think part of this challenge will be how much can the united states push israel, which has a legitimate interest in the issue of weapons smuggling to gaza, but how can it find a way to achieve this right balance so that you can increase assistance to the people of gaza while meeting israel's legitimate security needs. th
what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come...
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but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran, which poses the greatest exstential threat, to the whole region this is a good time to sit down, try to negotiate what everybody knows would be the best solution for both parties it will not solve the hamas/gaza problem. but we can address the west bank problem. >> everybody seems to be nodding. a good moment to leave this for now. thank you, all, very much indeed. >> thank you. >> right back after a short break. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copay
but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran,...
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egypt now is a different egypt. the president of egypt has to work a very scary tightrope. he is too flimsy to hamas and gaza and the aim of the muslim brotherhood, if he does not have massive infusions of billions of dollars from the u.s., from the imf, the egyptians are hungry and they will go back to the street and ask what they need them for. he is too friendly in the other direction. in other words, he is not tough enough on israel. his own people will rise up and say, what do we need him for. morici is in a very scary situation. what makes this nicer for him, is the u.s. checkbook. cheryl: they are looking for money, obviously. let me ask you another question with regard to israel itself. four decades, israel has been on the defense, obviously. this year more than ever, benjamin netanyahu is setting the stage. in particular, i think the hamas sidedness and now egypt, if you are benjamin netanyahu right now, what are you saying to yourself, how do you protect israel? >> i think what you say is two things, do not loose sight of the main event in the main event is iran a
egypt now is a different egypt. the president of egypt has to work a very scary tightrope. he is too flimsy to hamas and gaza and the aim of the muslim brotherhood, if he does not have massive infusions of billions of dollars from the u.s., from the imf, the egyptians are hungry and they will go back to the street and ask what they need them for. he is too friendly in the other direction. in other words, he is not tough enough on israel. his own people will rise up and say, what do we need him...
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so the key player in this, again, has been egypt. they have been the country, the government here in cairo, that have been talking both to israeli officials, and hamas officials. and again still hopeful that despite this new round of violence today, that something can get done. >> we will follow you there in cairo reza sayah, thank you so much. as we are hours away from that meeting between mohamed mursi and hillary clinton. >> i want to bring in on the phone from tel aviv actually on the scene of that explosion. are you there? >> yes, i am. >> what can you tell me about the explosion and the casualties? bring us up to speed about what you're seeing at the scene and what's happening to the people who are on that bus. >> well, around 10:00 -- 12:00 our time there was an explosion at a bus in the city center of tel aviv. six ambulances -- casualties. two of them -- [ indecipherable ] medical center of tel aviv. and at the moment, the scene -- bus is no longer here -- >> taken to the hospital. thank you on the scene. don't go away. we'r
so the key player in this, again, has been egypt. they have been the country, the government here in cairo, that have been talking both to israeli officials, and hamas officials. and again still hopeful that despite this new round of violence today, that something can get done. >> we will follow you there in cairo reza sayah, thank you so much. as we are hours away from that meeting between mohamed mursi and hillary clinton. >> i want to bring in on the phone from tel aviv actually...
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egypt has been constructed from the past. we hope they will continue to fulfill this role now in the future. jenna: i ask that question because we know how important this relationship is for your country and all of ours. i want to talk about "the new york times" article that he wrote about today. it was published and he said that hamas is not interested in peace. they want violence and they want to promote terror. it is not a rational thing according to the way that you laid this out. why negotiate at all through any here in this region? >> they don't want to negotiate at all, they don't want to speak with us. they want to destroy us. they don't actually want to just kill israelis, but jews throughout the world. they are a genocide organization. but they can negotiate with egypt and others where hamas does not have free reign to shoot at us and they don't have access to iranian rockets. jenna: you said that they don't have free range to fire the rockets, but with or without hamas's ideology, beyond just the immediate, what yo
egypt has been constructed from the past. we hope they will continue to fulfill this role now in the future. jenna: i ask that question because we know how important this relationship is for your country and all of ours. i want to talk about "the new york times" article that he wrote about today. it was published and he said that hamas is not interested in peace. they want violence and they want to promote terror. it is not a rational thing according to the way that you laid this out....
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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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to egypt unless they play a more constructive role. the last 48 hours president morsi has stepped up to the plate. but we don't know if this cease-fire will hold. megyn: it's fascinating to watch this unfold. ed henry, thanks. we have a report today on the deadly consulate attack in libya raising more serious questions about who was behind the administration's changing story and what and who was behind the murder of four americans on 9/11. the national intelligence cleave, the director of national intelligence james clapper is getting the blame from top republicans who say he made blatantly inconsistent statement to them on who changed the cia talking points on the attack. they sit was al qaeda and somebody changed that talking point. there was testimony late last week from former cia director david petraeus who we are told told the lawmakers the initial documents coming out of the cia was this ambush that killed the four americans in benghazi included the word terrorism and cited al qaeda. but someone changed the language. then we had
to egypt unless they play a more constructive role. the last 48 hours president morsi has stepped up to the plate. but we don't know if this cease-fire will hold. megyn: it's fascinating to watch this unfold. ed henry, thanks. we have a report today on the deadly consulate attack in libya raising more serious questions about who was behind the administration's changing story and what and who was behind the murder of four americans on 9/11. the national intelligence cleave, the director of...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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what the people there expect egypt to do? >> most gazans sought egypt as standing with gaza. this ought egypt sending the prime minister for a visit to gaza as a real show of solidarity. however, if you look at the policy, it is not really changed at all. there's been an easing since the mubarak era. it is still largely closed to trade with -- to trade. they ignore human rights and justice and equity. they're looking at it from a security issue, which does not make or is not a real break a policy from mubarak's era. i think there is not an insignificant things that morsi has done that has helped to significantly change the tone of the issue of israel and palestine in the middle east, but in terms of actual policy, not much has changed. >> is that because the military is still determining egypt -- the israel-palestine policy and not so much the demonstration of morsi? >> for years, the entire palestine issue was not handled by the egyptian ministry of foreign affairs but by military intelligence. yes, that is a separate state institution that still does deal really with the is
what the people there expect egypt to do? >> most gazans sought egypt as standing with gaza. this ought egypt sending the prime minister for a visit to gaza as a real show of solidarity. however, if you look at the policy, it is not really changed at all. there's been an easing since the mubarak era. it is still largely closed to trade with -- to trade. they ignore human rights and justice and equity. they're looking at it from a security issue, which does not make or is not a real break...
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i think there is probably from the hamas side with egypt as egypt is probably promising the opening of passages which up until now at the descriptions have not really opened. and there may be something to do with what the israelis will be allowing into gaza, the fact is the israelis allowed much more into gaza, they still want to be able to check ships to be sure that big weapons aren't coming in that way but i think that is probably the outline that hamas probably also wants commitments from the israelis about not going after their leadership. >> elliott, do you think this is a deal that the israelis will believe in and think acceptable for them? >> i do. i think one really critical part of it is the egyptian side, that is policing that border, something that the number rec regime did not do. the egyptians will promise to do that and the question then is, will the new government do it? and keep at least the long range iranian rockets from entering gaza? will they really police it and really close the tunnels i think that is going to be quite critical. >> rose: what do you think? >> we
i think there is probably from the hamas side with egypt as egypt is probably promising the opening of passages which up until now at the descriptions have not really opened. and there may be something to do with what the israelis will be allowing into gaza, the fact is the israelis allowed much more into gaza, they still want to be able to check ships to be sure that big weapons aren't coming in that way but i think that is probably the outline that hamas probably also wants commitments from...
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he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply they could be cut off. >> not only is that not happening but iran apparently continues toward a nuclear capability. when that happens, saudi arabia is going to have a nuclear capability. every country in the gulf area is going to be thinking about developing one. situation is going to be child's play compared to what it will be like then. i have more good news... it's thanksgiving. >> greta: hamas publicly executing six people. one was tied to the back of motorcycle and dragged through the streets. meanwhile, people are taking pictures. late tonight, bombs on both sides of bord
he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing and meeting tonight for two hours with benjamin netanyahu, the foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and then to cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no,ut i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been stymied and
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing and meeting tonight for two hours with benjamin netanyahu, the foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and then to cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohamed morsi has influence with hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change...
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his public position has to align with hamas and egypt. the real confrontation is between iran and israel. lou: the real confrontation may be, but the al money is coming@ fromthe united states and the u.s.-led international monetary fund. billion and a half dollars of prident obama has asked for. almost $5 billion. guarantees. this is wherever else i is. radical islamic state, the muslim brotherhood led egyptian government. it is strangling in an economy at is simply not working. the united states and europe have the trump cards in this. is that an incorrect statement in your judgment? >> yes, because the imf still has already been signed. he has that credit line out there. i think what's going on in egypt is that there is a struggle between -- lou: actually, this deal was reached today. they have not been funded. lou: but the deal is done. acquiescence to udgment and reason. and necessary component. >> as you correctly pointed out that europeans will not put pressure on egypt. he will get his money from the imf. the -- lou: wait a minute.
his public position has to align with hamas and egypt. the real confrontation is between iran and israel. lou: the real confrontation may be, but the al money is coming@ fromthe united states and the u.s.-led international monetary fund. billion and a half dollars of prident obama has asked for. almost $5 billion. guarantees. this is wherever else i is. radical islamic state, the muslim brotherhood led egyptian government. it is strangling in an economy at is simply not working. the united...
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so it's using egypt as a go between. the white house says president obama spoke with the egyptian leader not once, but three times in the last 24 hours on the trip back from asia. now hillary clinton on what could be her last peace mission, one that could help define her legacy and shape the history of the middle east and beyond. it's very big news and we have team fox coverage. david lee miller in the south of israel for us. first jennifer griffin live at the state department. how long does secretary clinton say she plans to stay in the middle east? >> well, her aides say she will be home for thanksgiving. so that's not very long. she plans to leave tomorrow night. they also say this is not her last peace mission. she will still be making other attempts and other trips overseas as secretary of state. her meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu just ended, we're told, and from the body language earlier tonight when they spoke, it didn't look like they were on the verge of a deal. >> it is essential to deescalate t
so it's using egypt as a go between. the white house says president obama spoke with the egyptian leader not once, but three times in the last 24 hours on the trip back from asia. now hillary clinton on what could be her last peace mission, one that could help define her legacy and shape the history of the middle east and beyond. it's very big news and we have team fox coverage. david lee miller in the south of israel for us. first jennifer griffin live at the state department. how long does...
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they for instance monopolize the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through, nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes officially or unofficially so there's a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into its own business. >> do people know where all the rocket batteries are? do people know where hamas is? we ourselves are trying to figure out well, is there hamas in a building where we are, there might be a strike. do people know everything about the locations of hamas installations? >> you have to keep in mind gaza's a small place. 1.5, 1.7 million people. everybody, everybody here seems to know everybody else and know who their family is and what their family background is. so people have a good idea of who is hamas and who isn't. on the other hand, they do sort of move in this society, they're not strangers. they're palestinians, they're gazans like everybody else. they do have an ability to sort of slip around and not be -- and sort of conceal their identity. but people are very aware of sor
they for instance monopolize the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through, nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes officially or unofficially so there's a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into its own business. >> do people know where all the rocket batteries are? do people know where hamas is? we ourselves are trying to figure out well, is there hamas in a building where we are, there might be a strike. do people know everything...
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egypt is playing a strong role. the visit of secretary clinton will bolster that, and all of us in the e.u. countries also determined to do so. so a lot of effort is being made behind this cease-fire proposal. >> cannot press the foreign cretary to say something more about what the future conversations he had with his fellow e.u. ministers on gaza, and also what conversation she's having with the special representatives of egypt's? >> well, we have the whole e.u. a fair council meeting yesterday, and there were the conclusions published from that, calling and very much in line with what i've said to the house in terms of the need to end rocket attacks on issue but also as a support for a negotiated caesar. so the whole of the e.u. year and spoke together on that yesterday. of course, we also regulate discuss matters with tony blair, e envoy of the quartet to the palestinians. i most recently spoke to him 10 days, nine days ago about this. my colleagues are in constant touch with him, and we will see whether that can
egypt is playing a strong role. the visit of secretary clinton will bolster that, and all of us in the e.u. countries also determined to do so. so a lot of effort is being made behind this cease-fire proposal. >> cannot press the foreign cretary to say something more about what the future conversations he had with his fellow e.u. ministers on gaza, and also what conversation she's having with the special representatives of egypt's? >> well, we have the whole e.u. a fair council...
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i think that's where egypt could play a significant role here. look for secretary clinton to push egypt, its president, mohamed morsi, to get hamas to make some concessions to possibly hammer out a cease fire. yesterday egyptian officials were optimistic that a cease fire would come. today, it's not the case. all parties here seem to be continuing the push to hammer out some sort of truce while the violence seems to be escalating. >> reza sayah for us in cairo this morning. thank you. appreciate that. >>> couple of new things to tell you. the white house has a statement now on the bus explosion saying this. the united states condemns today's terrorist attack on a bus in tel aviv. our thoughts and prayers are with those that were injured and the these attacks are outrageous, unshakeable commitment to israel's security, friendship and solidarity with the israeli people. we want to get to sarah -- let me check with you first before we let you go. we're getting word there's been retaliation in the wake of this bus explosion, some reports on the bbc s
i think that's where egypt could play a significant role here. look for secretary clinton to push egypt, its president, mohamed morsi, to get hamas to make some concessions to possibly hammer out a cease fire. yesterday egyptian officials were optimistic that a cease fire would come. today, it's not the case. all parties here seem to be continuing the push to hammer out some sort of truce while the violence seems to be escalating. >> reza sayah for us in cairo this morning. thank you....
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there were a lot of doubts about how he would lead egypt? whether he would maintain the peace agreement with israel. he can be, based on this performance, i think an important partner for the united states. >> suarez: ambassador burns, hisham melhem, good to talk to you both. >> thank you upon >> brown: and now to the conflict in syria. nato said today that it would consider a turkish request to deploy patriot missiles to protect itself from syrian attacks. turkey and syria share a 560 mile border and after syrian mortar rounds landed in turkish territory, concerns have risen that the civil war fighting could spread further. in margaret warner's latest report, she examines the spill-over that's already happening. >> reporter: nestled up against the border with syria, ceylanpinar, turkey has an all- too-up-close view of the civil war next door, as fighting rages in its syrian twin city of ras- al-ain. for days last week on the syrian side, president bashar al assad's forces fought rebels of the free syrian army, or f.s.a., to control ras-al-a
there were a lot of doubts about how he would lead egypt? whether he would maintain the peace agreement with israel. he can be, based on this performance, i think an important partner for the united states. >> suarez: ambassador burns, hisham melhem, good to talk to you both. >> thank you upon >> brown: and now to the conflict in syria. nato said today that it would consider a turkish request to deploy patriot missiles to protect itself from syrian attacks. turkey and syria...
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everyone here in egypt was expecting for president morsi to make an announcement last night. they schedule ad time 9:00 p.m. local. the english language newspaper here has the headline as israel and gaza agree on a cease-fire. that's the level of confidence here that people felt that there was going to be a cease-fire agreement. now trying to determine why that agreement never happened is very difficult. obviously people on each side have different opinions. one official with the freedom and justice party which is the political wing of the muslim brotherhood told us the israelis requested to postpone the agreement for another day and she told us we would hear something later today. but at this stage nobody really knows. >> secretary of state hillary clinton is on her way to egypt. what does she bring to the negotiating table that wasn't there already? >> reporter: well, obviously she met last night with prime minister netanyahu, she met this morning with the palestinian president. today she will be sitting down with the egyptian president morsi. she won't be dealing directly
everyone here in egypt was expecting for president morsi to make an announcement last night. they schedule ad time 9:00 p.m. local. the english language newspaper here has the headline as israel and gaza agree on a cease-fire. that's the level of confidence here that people felt that there was going to be a cease-fire agreement. now trying to determine why that agreement never happened is very difficult. obviously people on each side have different opinions. one official with the freedom and...
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can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters. israeli police confirm that an explosive device detonated but say it was not a suicide attack. the white house is calling the attack against israeli civilians outrage o outrageous. the united kingdom is condemning the, quote, shocking violence. the eight-day conflict between israel and hamas has claimed the lives of more than 130 palestinians and five israelis. despite hopes of a ceasefire, tuesday ended as the conflict's deadliest day. secretary clinton who rushed to the region to try to prevent an escalation of the conflict is in cairo to meet with egy
can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters....
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of course washington with strong ties to israel, and then you have egypt. they already have their peace treaty with israel, 1979 camp david accord. they said they will not interrupte disrupt that peace treaty, but egypt has strong relations with hamas. hamas was born out of the muslim brotherhood. that's why much of the world is eager to see if the two countries can get together and get these two sides to stop fighting. diplomatic efforts are continuing at this hour, world. >>> and there's no word i take it, reza, whether there will be joint public statements by the egyptian president and hillary clinton? we don't have an indication one way or another yet, do we? >> reporter: the last statements we received from the president's office was that there would be a press conference. that's what we are waiting for. we anticipated in meeting to take place earlier this afternoon local time in cairo with the press conference to follow. this meeting has gone on longer than we expected. >> we'll see if they announce some sort of cease-fire or some sort of great that h
of course washington with strong ties to israel, and then you have egypt. they already have their peace treaty with israel, 1979 camp david accord. they said they will not interrupte disrupt that peace treaty, but egypt has strong relations with hamas. hamas was born out of the muslim brotherhood. that's why much of the world is eager to see if the two countries can get together and get these two sides to stop fighting. diplomatic efforts are continuing at this hour, world. >>> and...
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>> this goes back to what you and i discussed, money for egypt. who is going to go to congress now and say we don't want to spend money and training, he is the king's maker, the peacemaker of the region. that is a big thing for morsi. melissa: so we will send egypt money to hold this in place after they were the ones funneling missiles to gaza and into hamas. >> it reminds us of neighborhood politics and policies here and elsewhere. he is the one who encouraged hamas. allowing some of the missiles to go. a heavy exchange of fire and he comes and says i can't stop that fire against israel. melissa: thank you so much. it is supposed to be a time of year to give back and feel thankful, instead unions are targeting airports and retailers. just holiday shopping and travel kicks into high gear. who are they really hurting? lou dobbs ahead. right now the dow was up 48 points. greece international lenders failed to come to an agreement on how to reduce that nation's sovereign debt. the greek prime minister says a lack of a deal over technical reasons does
>> this goes back to what you and i discussed, money for egypt. who is going to go to congress now and say we don't want to spend money and training, he is the king's maker, the peacemaker of the region. that is a big thing for morsi. melissa: so we will send egypt money to hold this in place after they were the ones funneling missiles to gaza and into hamas. >> it reminds us of neighborhood politics and policies here and elsewhere. he is the one who encouraged hamas. allowing some...
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role as a mediator a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of discussion about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word is row up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various newspapers egypt has come to the fore it is certainly playing a central role and this has always been the intention of the egyptian leadership was to put themselves back on the map we would have seen a very different type of mediation happening if it was the former egyptian president hosni mubarak so me it's well known that he was on the side of israel he did not carry the same kind of support and he would have gone that extra mile with her months to try and broker some kind of ceasefire or perhaps try and implement what we how witnessing not all from the gove
role as a mediator a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of discussion about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word is row up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various newspapers...
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the most important meeting is tomorrow with egypt's president morsi. morsi wants american aid for the survival of egypt, and she wants morsi to really pressure hamas to pull back and come up with some permanent agreement. interestingly clinton was going only briefly to ramallah, to the west bank. it will be more than two years since she's been there. that tells you everything, that the more moderate branch of the palestinians really are irrelevant to all of this. the real power is political power, at least, with hamas. >> our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in d.c. tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> in this country we have been reporting on the rush among some big retailers out there to push the traditional black friday shopping day frenzy into thursday which, of course, is thanksgiving day. now, on top of that, it looks like if you plan on lining up outside your local walmart, you may have company in the form of protesters. our report tonight on all of it from nbc's kristen dahlgren. >> reporter: where they expect to see signs advertisin
the most important meeting is tomorrow with egypt's president morsi. morsi wants american aid for the survival of egypt, and she wants morsi to really pressure hamas to pull back and come up with some permanent agreement. interestingly clinton was going only briefly to ramallah, to the west bank. it will be more than two years since she's been there. that tells you everything, that the more moderate branch of the palestinians really are irrelevant to all of this. the real power is political...
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they come in through egypt. >>eric: through the tunnels on the egypt and gaza border but the question, and this is just an assumption, israel would not agree to a cease-fire unless egypt was willing to cut off that armed supply, correct? >>guest: i think israel is subject to all sorts of extraordinary pressures and constraints precisely because of the diplomatic war that is effectively wages with the help of the u.n. you have the u.n. running rescue agency headquartered in gaza that is dedicated exclusively to palestinian revenues and it also effectively serves as a press center for the hamas leadership in gaza when this breaks out. what has happened, there is a ritual reciting bit u.n., the rockets should stop and they say, and israel must exercise complete restraint and they condemn trillion for what it is doing in its own defense. for months, the rockets were sitting israel and israel's ambassador to the u.n. was pleading with the u.n. security council to do something, month after month, hundreds and hundreds
they come in through egypt. >>eric: through the tunnels on the egypt and gaza border but the question, and this is just an assumption, israel would not agree to a cease-fire unless egypt was willing to cut off that armed supply, correct? >>guest: i think israel is subject to all sorts of extraordinary pressures and constraints precisely because of the diplomatic war that is effectively wages with the help of the u.n. you have the u.n. running rescue agency headquartered in gaza that...
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>> bob: two-state solution. >> eric: the key is egypt. clearly the key is egypt. if egypt doesn't want to keep the peace in the middle east, it doesn't. the problem is mohammed morsi is a muslim brotherhood disciple. under the charter there can be no state of israel. egypt right now has a big decision to make. are they with the west or going to stay with the mull las in iran -- mullahs in iran. >> bob: they have embassy in israel and recognize israel is a country. they do that. they accepted that. >> eric: they did. that >> bob: they are still there. they haven't denounced it, have they? >> greg: make a bright spot about hillary, she called it "terrorism." >> dana: how refreshing. >> greg: she called the rocket attacks terror. there is still some in the media when they discuss hamas not referring to the rockets being lobbed in to communities where there are innocent people. not referring to it as terror like it's angry tenants. what do you call it? fear of language. >> bob: keep in mind to be fair the israelis, i understand why they are bombing where they are bomb
>> bob: two-state solution. >> eric: the key is egypt. clearly the key is egypt. if egypt doesn't want to keep the peace in the middle east, it doesn't. the problem is mohammed morsi is a muslim brotherhood disciple. under the charter there can be no state of israel. egypt right now has a big decision to make. are they with the west or going to stay with the mull las in iran -- mullahs in iran. >> bob: they have embassy in israel and recognize israel is a country. they do...
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the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the re of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last e i want to make, in her introduction you said it is always about the money. the best way to do this conflict is a new front, economic front opened by the iranians against the israelis. manufacture rockets for about $1000 apiece. it cost the israelis 50,000 50,000-$100,000 to shoot these rockets down. every is under pressure from the sanctions against them, they're applying pressure against israel by supplying massive quantities of low-cost rockets. melissa: so how does that play out from their? who runs out of money first? >> it bad news for israel. 50, 60 years ago the israelis could
the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the re of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last e i want to make, in her introduction...
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hamas has just come into force something being hammered out during marathon negotiations hosted by egypt israel's been pounding the palestinian territory with missiles in both the air and sea for more than a week in response to hamas says cross border rockets a correspondent in tel aviv reports on the much sought after troops. a ceasefire has been announced and agreed to by both israel and hamas this is the second time in two days that we've heard such an announcement but this time it so does seem as if it's accurate it was earlier at a press conference between the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton and the egyptian foreign minister at that press conference clinton said that the u.s. was committed to making sure that these raids face an increased safety and security situation and also to improving the conditions of people in gaza and egypt for its side has said that cairo has a historical duty to represent and help the people of palestine now the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier held a telephone call with the american president barack obama in that phone call he sai
hamas has just come into force something being hammered out during marathon negotiations hosted by egypt israel's been pounding the palestinian territory with missiles in both the air and sea for more than a week in response to hamas says cross border rockets a correspondent in tel aviv reports on the much sought after troops. a ceasefire has been announced and agreed to by both israel and hamas this is the second time in two days that we've heard such an announcement but this time it so does...
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of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously optimistic. >> two thoughts on that. i mean, obviously, secretary clinton's role, it was, you know, a high-risk decision to send her there. she's managed to come away with a deal. obviously, she and the president deserve a tremendous amount of credit. also this idea of strengthening the relationship with morsi because what i've heard from administration officials is they're concerned they haven't had the leverage with morsi they may have had with the previous head of egypt. are you picking that up as well? >> reporter: absolutely. and i think that was the concern sort of entering this process of try
of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously...